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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000579 | madVR | bug | public | 2018-09-28 05:23 | 2018-09-29 07:58 |
| Reporter | george2015 | Assigned To | madshi | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| OS | windows 10 | OS Version | 1803 | ||
| Summary | 0000579: missing settings | ||||
| Description | in latest madVR v0.92.16 build HDR to SDR conversion works only when you select Let madVR decide in HDR options | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | madVR v0.92.16 https://i.imgur.com/cMUu3wT.png madVR v0.92.14 https://i.imgur.com/5rCD1wU.png when you select convert HDR to SDR using pixel shader math it has no effect on colors and some settings are missing, in v0.92.14 everything is working as it should with good colors | ||||
| Additional Information | i use displayport cable and nvidia full-RGB setting in nvidia control panel, i also use this calibration settings for extra crisp color reproduction https://i.imgur.com/Zw9abar.png so there's something wrong in new build | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| madVR Version | v0.92.16 | ||||
| Media Player (with version info) | MPC-HC 1.82 | ||||
| Splitter (with version info) | LAV video decoder 0.72.0.13git | ||||
| Decoder (with version info) | LAV splitter 0.72.0.13git | ||||
| Decoding | Software | ||||
| Deinterlacing | auto mode | ||||
| DXVA2 Scaling Active | no | ||||
| Aero / Desktop Composition | On | ||||
| Problem occurs with mode | all modes | ||||
| GPU Manufacturer | NVidia | ||||
| GPU Model | GTX 780 | ||||
| GPU Driver Version | 411.70 | ||||
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It works fine here. FWIW, I did remove some options because they're no longer needed. Your v0.92.16 settings screenhot looks exactly as it should. Can you attach a screenshot of a HDR movie playing, one with v0.92.14 and one with v0.92.16, using "HDR -> SDR pixel shader math" activated? You do use the same "target peak nits" settings in both versions, right? |
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yes i used exact same settings: madvr 0.92.14 https://i.imgur.com/i76qutc.png madvr 0.92.16 https://i.imgur.com/v9NYYFU.png both with same callibration settings https://i.imgur.com/Zw9abar.png madvr 0.92.16 without any callibration using SDR pixel shader math https://i.imgur.com/Y14SROz.png |
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with new build colors are more or less fine using this settings: https://i.imgur.com/twqHsYO.png but with old callibration settings colors are dull https://i.imgur.com/6sbfc8E.png madvr 0.92.14 and older builds all worked same before https://i.imgur.com/mi8u9sV.png https://i.imgur.com/2Vmodwb.png |
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Wow, that looks really extremely dark! Two ideas: 1) Could you try resetting madVR to default values, just as a test? You can save your "settings.bin" file (if there is one in the madVR folder), so you can go back to the original settings. Going back to the original settings works like this: Restore default settings once more. Then simply copy in the old settings.bin file. 2) If the above doesn't help, please try different decoder variants, e.g. DXVA Native vs DXVA Copyback vs Software vs D3D11. Do they all show the same problem? I suppose this happens with *all* HDR videos, correct? |
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yes all HDR videos look more or less same, i use 200 nits, on 100 nits it's brighter but with loss of some colors https://i.imgur.com/q4f5SKG.png my monitor gamma is 2.2 i already reset madvr to default values, but it doesn't help, maybe it's time to buy at least 2K monitor with 350 cd/m² https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2518d/ with p2314h colors are too dark at 200 nits (using default brighness and contrast 75) i think 0.92.14 build with old calibration has better richer colors and at least you can see something in really dark scenes, as for newer build it is even darker without using calibration, with different callibration setting you can achieve better results https://i.imgur.com/twqHsYO.png so new build uses some other method and doesn't like old callibration settings https://i.imgur.com/v9NYYFU.png so i better stay on 0.92.14 build i have following Filters currently loaded: - Default DirectSound Device - madVR - Audio Switcher - LAV Video Decoder (internal) - LAV Audio Decoder (internal) - LAV Splitter Source (internal) i7-4770 cpu does most job, later maybe i install GTX1080Ti from mining rig and it can do GPU acceleration on 4K HDR videos, SDR videos are working fine, only HDR ones are too dark |
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Can you maybe upload a little video sample, so I can double check your screenshots on my PC? Maybe when we compare your screenshots with mine, we can find out what's going on. On my PC v0.92.16 does not seem to draw images any darker than v0.92.14. |
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http://sendfile.su/1444067 video https://i.imgur.com/VD84NdV.png screen is from the beggining of that video sample but now i used 0.92.14 version and these settings https://i.imgur.com/Zw9abar.png https://i.imgur.com/5rCD1wU.png https://i.imgur.com/Ytr3f46.png color and gamma settings i left unchanged i use FULL-RGB in nvidia control panel, other color settings is at default level, with 0.92.16 i get very different colors using same callibration settings, without calibration it's too dark, maybe my display doesn't like 200 nits, so i'm staying on 0.92.14 build, here's difference between pure power curve and other calibration option: https://i.imgur.com/nJZXQpg.png https://i.imgur.com/pW0BCI2.png with bt.619 curve i have better richer colors, if i raise gamma level or decrease nits to 100 i lose some colors, it's better to stay darker but richer colors |
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I've attached 2 screenshots from my PC, using a target peak nits of 280 nits, with v0.92.14 and v0.92.16. I've set "this display is already calibrated to BT.709 gamut, with a pure power curve of 2.20. As you can see, the 2 images are almost identical. Can you verify? |
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yes your screens are identical, here's my 0.92.14 version https://i.imgur.com/AvMOsVa.png 200 nits same calibration settings as you had https://i.imgur.com/eHAHgKO.png on second screen i used different setting https://i.imgur.com/Zw9abar.png here's 0.92.16 screens with same settings: https://i.imgur.com/SX01Qig.png https://i.imgur.com/8AVflQJ.png as you can clearly see second screen is quite different from 0.92.14 version screen, old version has brighter and crisper color, new one greyish and dull when using same settings, but with 2.2 gamma it's brighter than without any callibration and then screens are almost same, i like older version with these settings https://i.imgur.com/Zw9abar.png it has more vibrant and crisper colors, i think my monitor just lacks brightness level, 2K newer monitors with at least 350 nits should do better in HDR videos using madvr plugin |
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with gamma 2.2 and pure power curve callibration, 200 nits is too much, maximum i can set 150 nits with losing some color tones, so i prefer different setting, maybe new version uses different callibration method when using second option, here's old version using only 100 nits https://i.imgur.com/tH65uGj.png using same callibration settings, here's 150 nits https://i.imgur.com/6X3Cuqh.png maybe in some movies with darker scenes it's better to use 150 nits to increase brightness level, at 200 nits color reproduction is better, but some darker scenes look too dark |
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Is the problem fixed in this build? http://madshi.net/madVRtf709.rar |
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yes now it's almost perfect, i think it's even better than 0.92.12, there's no more greish dull colors, i checked couple of videos, also changed dithering settings https://i.imgur.com/mrD2Mfj.png i will continue to use this setting, i think new version has better color reproduction using those settings: https://i.imgur.com/mrD2Mfj.png https://i.imgur.com/BGuMNwS.png when you start to decrease nits level or even further increase gamma (for example at 2.6) colors are less natural, especially faces, those settings will look more or less good in darker scenes, when there's too much sun it's better to use my settings, i think this could change if i move to better 2K monitor model with factory callibration and at least 350 cd/m² (then i put around 288-300 nits) + real 8bit ah-ips without dithering, but even on my simple 6bit+dithering 2013 ah-ips model mad-vr plugin makes 4K HDR videos watchable using MPC-HC, i'm using it since last september and you have made some progress in color reproduction, as well as performance, so now i stay on 0.92.16 build with two new files you sent me, here's the pics from eddie the eagle: https://i.imgur.com/Iopb5oI.png (using bt709/601 curve 2.4 gamma) https://i.imgur.com/BEeTPdu.png (using pure power curve 2.2 gamma) you can see that 2.4 has more vibrant and crisper colors, in motion it's looking even better especially on brighter scenes |
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as for performance, my cpu uses around 50-60% per core, but there's no lags and freezes, as for 1080Ti it works flawless using GPU acceleration with mpc+hc+mad-vr, my old 780 gpu only has 2160P gpu acceleration with 8bit videos, with 4K HDR it uses some software + hybrid method, but it's still watchable if you have powerful cpu with at least 8 Threads, so i watch lot's of 4K videos nowdays, 4K HDR monitors are still too expencive, especially with good ips models with Gsync 144 herz support, which need at least 2080Ti 1000$ GPU to have 60fps+ on latest games, but you need minimum 3500$ to spent + good system as well, so madvr plugin helps a lot if you like to watch movies on monitor |
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Good to hear, so I'll close this bug report. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2018-09-28 05:23 | george2015 | New Issue | |
| 2018-09-28 12:49 | madshi | Note Added: 0002406 | |
| 2018-09-28 12:49 | madshi | Assigned To | => madshi |
| 2018-09-28 12:49 | madshi | Status | new => feedback |
| 2018-09-28 13:11 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002407 | |
| 2018-09-28 13:11 | george2015 | Status | feedback => assigned |
| 2018-09-28 13:32 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002408 | |
| 2018-09-28 15:30 | madshi | Note Added: 0002409 | |
| 2018-09-28 16:32 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002410 | |
| 2018-09-28 17:11 | madshi | Note Added: 0002411 | |
| 2018-09-28 17:11 | madshi | Note Edited: 0002411 | |
| 2018-09-28 17:58 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002413 | |
| 2018-09-28 18:50 | madshi | File Added: v0.92.14.png | |
| 2018-09-28 18:50 | madshi | File Added: v0.92.16.png | |
| 2018-09-28 18:51 | madshi | Note Added: 0002414 | |
| 2018-09-28 19:49 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002416 | |
| 2018-09-28 20:06 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002417 | |
| 2018-09-28 22:26 | madshi | Note Added: 0002418 | |
| 2018-09-28 22:26 | madshi | Status | assigned => feedback |
| 2018-09-29 07:18 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002419 | |
| 2018-09-29 07:18 | george2015 | Status | feedback => assigned |
| 2018-09-29 07:32 | george2015 | Note Added: 0002420 | |
| 2018-09-29 07:58 | madshi | Note Added: 0002421 | |
| 2018-09-29 07:58 | madshi | Status | assigned => closed |
| 2018-09-29 07:58 | madshi | Resolution | open => fixed |
